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EP 171: How two men became Fathers through UK Surrogacy

EP 171: How two men became Fathers through UK Surrogacy

    Michael, Wes and the gorgeous                       Tallulah

Michael and Wes run TwoDads.U.K documenting their journey to become Dads and working hard to raise awareness of surrogacy in the UK. Michale speaks at National Fertility events about their journey to become Dads, and the treatment of Intended Parents in the NHS – which still has a long way to go from an equality perspective as well as documenting their  journey for the likes of Surrogacy UK, The Fertility Road Magazine and the tremendous website Gays With Kids, who also happen to be following their next Surrogacy journey which the pair share with regular blog posts via their website 

Michael and Wes have a clear mission, to educating everyone about Surrogacy and the journey same-sex intended parents (IP’s) have to endure and by doing this they hope to normalise that gays have kids too

Michael also runs Same-Sex Parents facebook page with a friend Steven Darby. Steven and his partner Connor have a little boy named George the same age as Talulah. The page was launched early in 2018 and is designed to bring other same-sex families together as we also hold regular meetups nationally. There is also a facebook chat group

 In 2018, the work they do for Two Dads UK was recognised as the part were called upon to speak at an All Party Parliamentary group to give their lived experience as two parents through UK surrogacy. They met a number of Intended Parents, Healthcare professionals, Singles and representatives of International and UK surrogacy. 

The discussions were about the glaringly obvious issues with the current surrogacy law regarding the parental order. Where the law is slightly out of kilter is that the surrogate and her husband are the legal guardians of your child. 

What the pair would like to see is  similar to how it is in the United States, where paperwork submitted at the point of conception and granted at birth – currently, you have to wait for six weeks and one day for it to go into court


  • Make sure everyone is on the same page
  • We took legal advice and we drafted an intention doc with our surrogate
  • Seek advice from an organisation such as Surrogacy UK
  • Adopted the friendship first mentality of Surrogacy UK – 11 months of friendship before we started
  • Speak to Hospital trust about the birth plan – we wanted to walk out with our child with the balloons into the carpark like anyone else does but it became very apparent we weren’t gonna get what we wanted
  • We would have to hand over in the carpark off hospital premises
  • Our presence on the maternity ward wasn’t what we expected, we weren’t going to be allowed to see our child being born
  • We got legal advice and our team did threaten with the intention to sue as there were multiple points where they were discriminating against us

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Source: The Fertility Podcast

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